Incision of Hell's Canyon

Hi again,

If you are not up on the evolution of the Western Snake River Plain (WSRP) and the timing of the cutting of Hell's Canyon in relation to the Owyhee intra-canyon lava flows then consider reading a paper by BSU Emeritus geomorphology professor Spencer Wood and his colleague Drew Clemens, "Geologic and Tectonic history of the Western Snake River Plain, Idaho and Oregon" Find it at:
http://earth.boisestate.edu/home/swood/WOODCLEM-2002.PDF
Among other things, the paper discusses where and when Lake Idaho existed and how and when Hell's Canyon was cut. It refers to work done by Kurt Otherberg, who Jim had mentioned before in the context of Hell's Canyon.
-Spud

Paleoclimate of northern Great Basin and Owyhee area

Hi folks,Two years ago I asked Peter Wigand for some direction insearching for papers that might help us understand thepaleoclimate (and therefore perhaps river discharge andstream power) of the Owyhee River basin.  He replied tome but I never was able to track down all the papers hesuggested.  I am providing his suggestions here in thehopes that we can improve our understanding of what theOwyhee River might have looked like during the existenceof the lava dams.  He said to start with the first onewhich had an extensive bibliography that wouldlead to some of the others.-SpudWigand, P. E. and D. Rhode. 2002. Great BasinVegetation History and Aquatic Systems: The Last150,000 years. Pp. 309-367. In Hershler, R., D. B.Madsen and D. R. Currey (eds.), Great Basin AquaticSystems History. Smithsonian Contributions to EarthSciences 33. Smithsonian Institution Press,Washington, D.C.Mladen Zic, Robert M. Negrini, Peter E. Wigand. 2002.Evidence of synchronous climate change across thenorthern hemisphere between the north Atlantic and thenorthwestern Great Basin, USA. Geology 30(7):635-638.Cohen, A. S., M. Palacios, R. M. Negrini, P. E.Wigand, and D. B. Erbes. 2000. A paleoclimate recordfor the past 250,000 years from Summer Lake, Oregon,U.S.A.: II. Sedimentology, paleontology, andgeochemistry. Journal of Paleolimnology 24(2):151-182.Negrini, R. M., D.l B. Erbes, K. Faber, A. M. Herrera,A. P. Roberts, A. S. Cohen, P. E. Wigand, and FranklinF. Foit, Jr. 2000. A paleoclimate record for the past250,000 years from Summer Lake, Oregon, U.S.A.: I.Chronology and magnetic proxies for lake level.Journal of Paleolimnology 24 (2):125-149.Mehringer, P.J., Jr. and P.E. Wigand. 1990. Comparisonof Late Holocene environments from woodrat middens andpollen, Diamond Craters, Oregon. In Martin, P.S., J.Betancourt and T.R. Van Devender (eds.), FossilPackrat Middens: The Last 40,000 Years of BioticChange. University of Arizona Press.Wigand, P.E. 1987. Diamond Pond, Harney County,Oregon: Vegetation history and water table in theeastern Oregon desert. Great Basin Naturalist 47(3):427-458.

Reply to depocenter in middle of WC flow

Yes, the comment fcn on the blog seems to be out of order--this post is in regard to Dr. Jerque's post of WC in VR hindsight, etc. etc.

Dr. Jerque,

The area marked by a question mark on the image you posted could certainly contain sediment from the Owyhee River as the river flowed over the top of the WC lava. I have been there and was impressed by this expansive, low relief area made mostly of silts. I will review my notes at home tonight on the matter. I do recall also acknowledging that the area could easily be a depocenter for Bogus Creek. The road that you can see in the upper right corner of the image is built on a ~1.5-2 m high (man-made) berm (levee!!) that ensures all of Bogus Creek flows north rather than between some tumuli down to the low relief silty area as it clearly could do in the drop of a hat (or a March rain-on-frozen-ground event).

Yes, there are some large gravel/cobble bars along the lower reaches of Bogus Creek near the kipuka. If i recall correctly, these happen to be low enough in elevation and downstream enough to be within reach of overflows from the Owyhee River passing through the possible depocenter but also from other overflows further downstream. (Having said that, there are some sizable ephemeral channels that pour off the Bogus Rim directly to the east of the kipuka and these could contribute a lot of discharge in a large convective event or spring rain on snow.) It may be worth considering auguring this silty depocenter or digging some test pits there to understand the deposits or find some datable material.


And yes, there are several different lobes and inflationary flow fronts to the WC lava flow that wrap around Bogus Point and create some unique positive and negative relief. I looked at these in stereo many times and walked around on the ground there with an eye towards assessing the timing of these lava pulses and the potential interaction with the river. After a lot of back and forth, I continue to return to my original interpretation that there is only one lava flow in the area--the WC-- and that water flowed through a narrow gap between several tumuli far more upstream than the rounded boulders on the edge of the modern cliff of WC adjacent to Chalk Basin show. I am pretty sure that this nascent paleo channel is the upstream-most one shown on my maps of several years ago. Furthermore, there probably is a complex set of damming and overflow events because even though there is probably only one lava flow there, it probably made several surges or advances in its battle with the river and rising lake.

I sure wish I could have come to Bend!
-Spud

Ouch. I missed these... comment by Lisa

Lisa e-mailed a nice comment that I have placed on the blog for the record. I agree with her points. Something appears to be wrong with the commenting function in blogger...not with Lisa.

I recently re-read Howard et al.'s paper. The difference I see is that they stop short of going into detail about the impact of the lava dams on the geomorphic evolution of the canyon. Their paper provides a great basis of comparison for ours, but we can take ours much further with our more extensive dating, mapping and our possibly greater interest in the river canyon geomorphology. The Howard et al. paper was not that long, and mainly focused on the description of the lava flows and dams. We have more controls on incision rates through different lava flows at different times and places on the river, which I think will lead to interesting discussion.

I've sent away for a few more references to lava dams in the last couple of days. I'll circulate them when I get a chance to look them over. Quite a few on the Snake River, some in Canada, one in China.